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instances shutting down demonstrate the resilience of this network. this is my... sixth account? i get to keep my follows and my blocklist. everyone who interacts with me finds me again quickly. its fine

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you know what happens when the VC / advertising gravy train runs out at twitter? everything is gone. forever. thatll be fun

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i used to worry about why mastodon didnt have an Official migration system but honestly the numbers are just numbers. the difference i feel here is that im not an Account performing on some imperceptible stage. i enjoy getting replies and getting to know the personalities of the people on here. i remember their pets names. its cool.

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im honestly glad a lot of my old posts are gone forever.

relatedly, when i was on twitter i was constantly policing myself because you never know when a potential employer is gonna scope your tweets. i never realized how much that was psychologically damaging me until i quit. i like that its hard to search my posts unless i want them to be, and i like that i can make them go away forever very easily

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@dankwraith yeah. like it's sometimes a sad thing! but it's sad for people reasons, not technology reasons! imo.

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@dankwraith maybe "sad" is the wrong word.

poignant 🤔

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@dankwraith i agree. while it's kind of tedious to have to start fresh on a new account/instance, it's really not that big of a deal. if you've made the connections with others, you'll find your way to each other again.

now if you're just hoping to amass followers you have no deeper interaction with...

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@dankwraith Stuff disappears when Fediverse instances go down, too. People should archive their own stuff and probably their friends' stuff, with permission of course. It'd be nice to have some trusted non-profit like archive.org archiving stuff for release with permission or sometime after people's death.

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@freakazoid @dankwraith
It’s really hard to tell the difference between someone dying and someone just stopping for some other reason, though :/

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@freakazoid @dankwraith
I can't think of anything I've posted worth archiving.

That doesn't mean I don't think some of it was valuable, just that it won't be in the future. Recommending software, calling attention to/discussing some current event, etc.

Things that will either be irrelevant or archived elsewhere. IMO 500-char toots aren't blogs or articles, but more like conversations. Why keep that? Even if I said something profound, it would never be found again among all the crap.

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@dankwraith i saw a dude say "This is my 4th fucking account and i considered walking away from mastodon entirely after knzk shut down. there is a case to be made for centralization" lol

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@dankwraith lest we forget vine so soon

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@robin literally the reason vine shut down is because they couldnt figure out a way to easily mine videos for advertiser data lol

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@dankwraith meanwhile, people becoming vine famous all like 😕

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@dankwraith @robin it was that and a bunch of vine stars went on strike/tried unionizing

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@dankwraith i uh, didn't have the heart to tell him that if you didn't see the warning signs about knzk you simply probably never used your account

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@wintgenstein @dankwraith i left knzk months ago
y'know the last time it had an outage crisis

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@dankwraith Sixth? Please don't create an account on retro.social then, because I want it to stick around! This is only my second account and I was the admin of my first instance!

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@dankwraith i'd like to see account migrations done slightly more smoothly but the ephemerality is also kinda nice. i like that if i nuke my VPS instance all my shit is gone.

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@dankwraith feels less like a platform and more a community

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@Red yeah and theres obviously some good and some bad that comes with that, but i definitely prefer it overall

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@dankwraith it would be nice to be able to put the stuff I've posted back up on a new account in a way that backdates it but I can see why that's a tough technical problem to solve

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@jimpjorps yeah. i have come to accept the ephemeral nature of our Posts

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@dankwraith
Honestly every time I move instances I think of it like a forest fire. Helps clear away the dead wood and make space for new seeds to germinate

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@dankwraith I lost nothing when Geocities went away and all the shit I put up on the internet as a pre-teen was obliterated forever

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@dankwraith I agree. I would say that with the tools (limited as they are, but I think I prefer them this way) to allow a person to migrate an account, and how quickly it can work, is actually pretty awesome.

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